Showing posts with label Surrey. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Surrey. Show all posts

Thursday, 20 February 2014

Those Thursday Places - Richmond Poor Law

Map showing Richmond Union Workshouse
Courtesy of Surrey Records Centre
Today I read that Surrey Records Centre has released via their web page the Richmond Poor Law Union Applications and Report Books.

This is a fantastic resource which has indexed by a team of volunteers.

Not many of these records have survived for Surrey, so we are indeed very lucky that these have, and that an index has been published.

The data itself is spread over two pages and provides an assortment of information

  • Number in the Relief List
  • Date of Application
  • Names of Applicants
  • Age
  • Residence
  • Length of time in Union
  • Calling or Occupation
  • Marital Status
  • Ability (i.e. whether disabled)
  • If in receipt of relief
  • Present cause of seeking relief
  • Observations and names of relatives liable to relieve the applicant
  • Weekly earnings
  • Date of last visit
  • Quantity and nature of relief
  • Relief ordered by Guardians
  • Other orders
  • Observations
The alphabetical indexes are available to use and download from the Surrey Heritage website. They cover the period of 1870 - 1912 and contain some 103,000 names.

Friday, 6 April 2012

John Hunt Butcher & his link to sheep..

I was having a trawl through the Australian Newspaper Archives a while ago and came across this article which relates to my Butcher ancestors from Hascombe Surrey. John Hunt Butcher had inherited the estate called Park Hatch at Hascombe Surrey. He sold the estate in 1814 and migrated to Tasmania with his family in 1821.
The Lanceston Examiner (Tasmania)
Saturday, 6th April 1901
John Hunt Butcher died in Tasmania in 1839 and at the time of his demise he certainly had a substantial flock of sheep as you can see...

Colonial Times 19th November 1839
What I did find curious was the sale of the furniture. John's widow Sarah Butcher did remain in Tasmania, although she did return to England for a short time. Had her intention been to remain in England so selling her belongings was the only option, but at some point she changed her mind and returned to Tasmania?

Saturday, 18 February 2012

What a tangled web we weave.....

I was looking at a notebook this morning and spotted something, the surname of Burchell.  I knew I had already a reference to that surname, so I pulled the Butcher file off the bookcase and started to plough my way through the pages.

The Butcher family are complicated. They held land in Surrey, in the rural parishes of Wonersh, Shere, Bramley and Hascombe. They inherited their wealth and property through marriages and wills with the Chandlers, Hunts,Simmonds and Hammond families.

Each will and document provides another mystery, which leads to more research, pondering and confusion.

Here is a mind map, written about 1993 of the complexities. There are no full dates, as this is simply a visual for when I am thinking!


The more I look at the file and documents the more confused and frustrated I become. There are several puzzles.
  1. The marriage of Daniel Butcher & Elizabeth Simmonds is simply not in Surrey. The most likely is in Tillington Sussex in 1745 - a mere 15 miles away from Hascombe. 
  2. Daniel & Elizabeth had two children - one in 1761 and another 1775. I descend from the son in 1775. We know from the various wills that Daniel and Elizabeth Simmonds did marry, it is the where and when that proves problematic. We know that the two children, James and Elizabeth both inherited from family members and their place within the family groups is correct. 
  3. Despite this I still feel that there is almost another generation in between Daniel and his wife Elizabeth and their children. - I have checked there are no other marriages for a Daniel Butcher and Elizabeth Simmonds in the right time frame and within the confines of Surrey or Sussex. 
I am currently working now in the reverse direction and reading again all the wills and documentation and drawing out named relationships to see if I have missed anything.  
  1. The bottom line of research is work from what you know, following the ancestral line of descent - done!
  2. Have a paper trail of sources, documents and notes - done!
So, what have I missed?...... 

Friday, 27 January 2012

Postcard Friendship Friday - Shere, Surrey


Shere is located in Surrey England and is a very pretty (and expensive) location. Well known for appearing in several films. A branch of my own family resided in the village, although that was about 250 years before this postcard was produced.

Features as part of my Guildford and District Collection

Submitted as part of Postcard Friendship Friday hosted by The Best Hearts are Crunchy 


Wednesday, 25 January 2012

Australia Day 2012 – Wealth for Toil

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26th January 2012

The Australia Day post is once again coordinated by Twigs of Yore. For details on how to participate click HERE.

John Hunt Butcher was born in Hascombe in rural Surrey in 1781. In 1808 in London, he married Sarah Burchell and they raised a family of four children, one daughter Sarah born in 1805 died in 1810. I had never pursued this line specifically, as I descended from the brother of John's Grandfather, Daniel Butcher. The name of Butcher is fairly common in my bit of Surrey and the family lines complex with wills and property. At some point there is a falling out between Daniel and his brother Richard from whom John Hunt Butcher descends. I knew at some point I would come back to John and for a little more than 15 years I didn't focus on this line. That is until two things happened....

The first was I went search The National Archive catalogue on line for the name of John Butcher. Quite without thinking I typed John Hunt Butcher. I was just about to hit the delete button when I glanced at the screen and saw a reference to Australia. I am sure that everything stopped around me. It was one of those moments when I had to pinch yourself to be sure of what you were reading. All researchers know that feeling....don't you?

So I shelved the research for John Butcher and focused on this John Hunt Butcher. What I read, made my head spin. The Butcher family had always held property and land. There are numerous documents in the Surrey Records Centre for property being purchased jointly between Richard Butcher and my several times Great Grandfather Daniel Butcher. Sometimes they sold the property, sometimes they sold to each other. It all gets very complicated. Some of the names I was reading both in terms of names of individuals and names of property were known to me. This was definitely my family, although not my direct line of descent. The documents in question seem to provide details of property and money between various people who descended from the Butcher family. I made a note of the extra details, even from the catalogue it provided some extra data, but there is still a need for the original documents to be sighted and copies purchased. I sat and wrote a long list.

I then turned to the biggest statement and question, followed by another question and then another. John Hunt Butcher migrated to Australia, where, when, why. My brain thought it was going to explode, and my poor hand could not write fast enough. The documents directed me to Lowlands near Richmond Van Dieman's Land (Tasmania). A search of The State Library of Tasmania directed me to a painting of Lowlands by Mary Allport (Allport Collection).
There was something very peaceful about the picture. It reminded me of early pictures that I had seen of the family home in Hascombe, called Park Hatch. How did he acquire the land?

The Colonial Secretary index revealed that the data had been transcribed as William Butcher, but does indicated that John Hunt Butcher was given 2,000 acres on 16th June 1824. Which probably explains where Lowlands was built; and it was probably built with a reminiscence of his home in Hascombe.

The second thing that happened, did so just before Christmas. I saw a posting on one of the Australian Rootsweb mailing lists. Did anyone descend from John Hunt Butcher? I emailed the enquirer. Whilst they did not descend from the line, there was an association between the researcher's family and wife of John Hunt Butcher, Sarah Burchell, who it would appear was the sister of William John Burchell, a well known Botanist. A further glance at the family tree reminded me that John Hunt's sister, Suskey had married a George Matthew Burchell who in turn was Sarah's brother. Was the Burchell's the reason for John Hunt applying for a land grant? It would appear that another brother of George Burchell's, Charles had applied for one in 1821, but had stopped in South Africa en route to see his brother William John and decided to stay there.

My research for this line is continuing and is very much a work in progress. I want to have a real understanding as to why John left England. What happened to his family once he was in Australia? From early research it appears that John himself was a Magistrate and at some point a branch of his family moves across to Western Australia. I am a long way, both in terms of understanding and research and in geographical terms. My quest is to get as much basic research done prior to my Australia trip later this year. 

Friday, 13 January 2012

Postcard Friendship Friday - Rowley Bristow Orthopedic Hospital Surrey


Here is Rowley Bristow Orthopedic Hospital at Pyrford. This card is from July 1954, which was the same time my Mum was a patient there.


Submitted as part of Postcard Friendship Friday hosted by The Best Hearts are Crunchy 


Monday, 9 January 2012

Beyond the Internet Week 1: Church interiors

On the very first visit I made to Puttenham in Surrey I just knew I belonged. There was a feeling of completeness.

I walked up the main isle of the church towards the alter and stopped and sat down at one of the pews. Had my ancestors sat in that very spot?

I walked along towards the windows and looked at the stained glass. So vibrant with the sunlight bursting through.

I then looked at the various plaques littered indiscriminately on the walls.




Upon the plaques were the names of people that I had seen in the Parish Records and upon the Census. I remember being so excited I could have burst!

I then walked up to the font. How many ancestors had been Baptised at this very font? I could, time and fingers allowing have worked it out. My earliest known ancestor was Baptised at this font in 1724. This photograph was taken in 2004 - 280 years after that first Baptism.

What struck me as I stood at that font was the powerfulness of it. In years gone by parents would have struggled from their meagre earnings to have the money to pay for their child to be Baptised. There would have been no hesitation. The money would have been found.

So on that day in 2004 I remember telling Stuart exactly how I felt on that very first visit. The feelings of excitement, wonder, completeness. He didn't exactly say I was obsessed, but he did show me a particular look just before his eyes glazed over.

My fascination of the Village has not gone away. I host a One Place Study for the Village and during 2012 the Puttenham Archives that I hold will be placed upon their very own blog. I also need to up date the photographs including taking some of the stained glass windows.

Inspired from Family History Across the Seas.

Friday, 21 October 2011

52 Weeks of Personal Genealogy & History - Wk 42 - Favourite School Subject


Week 42. Favorite School Subject. What was your favorite subject in school and why? Was it also your best subject?
This challenge runs from Saturday, October 15, 2011 through Friday, October 21, 2011.
The subjects we often excel at are usually because we have a genuine interest in them and are inspired by people around us.

There is probably no great surprise that I loved English Literature and History. Both were subjects that I had a genuine interest in and the particular teachers that I had for those subjects inspired me greatly. 

The school that I attended was a comprehensive, but had previously been a Grammar School and had maintained many of the old and traditional ways. The number of students in each year was around 120. There was a Head Master a rather formidable chap called Mr Smith. He had a Deputy Head called Mrs Davies and a Senior Master called Mr Tanner. As you entered the school from middle school, so aged 12 years there was a head of year, another Mr Smith and then there was a set of form tutors. Those you saw probably twice a day, unless they also taught you during the day. As you progressed through the school you kept your form tutor, so there was a degree of relationship and bonding between the tutor and students. 
My form teacher at Senior school was a Miss Russell. She was a rather buxom spinster who had dedicated her life to teaching. Miss Russell also taught me history, and was my additional inspiration. Miss Russell retired the year that we took our final exams. At the end of year 5. I know it seems odd, because we started at year 2! - Then after exams you decided if you were to stay on and undertake A levels before University or would attend college for a course there or A levels. 

Our uniform was navy blue skirts and apple green shirts with a navy blue jumper or blazer. The hockey kit was navy blue skirt, white sports top and bright red knee high socks. The school tradition was, as you left school, that everyone wrote on the blouse or shirt you wore that day; both pupils and teachers. I still have mine in the loft with every one's name and message. I also have the badge that I detached from my school blazer. 

We had one year photo taken during my time at Guildford County School. This is from 1983, and sadly Miss Russell is not in it!


Postcard Friendship Friday - Guildford Holy Trinity 1918



Submitted as part of Postcard Friendship Friday hosted by The Best Hearts are Crunchy

Friday, 14 October 2011

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Friday, 12 August 2011

Postcard Friendship Friday - Effects of the Great Storm Guildford 1906


In the August of 1906 a huge storm hit Surrey. This is a postcard produced at the time of someone's beloved house looking a little worse for wear. This is part of my Guildford collection.

Submitted as part of Postcard Friendship Friday hosted by The Best Hearts are Crunchy


Saturday, 6 August 2011

Postcard Friendship Friday - Forge Normandy Surrey 1917

Welcome, to what is my first Postcard Friendship Friday.


This is a postcard taken in 1917 and shows employees at the Forge in Normandy. Normandy is a small village just north of Guildford Surrey England.

Submitted as part of Postcard Friendship Friday hosted by The Best Hearts are Crunchy


Thursday, 3 February 2011

Those Places Thursday - Puttenham Surrey

(Photo taken July 2004)

Like the majority of Genealogists I started my research by working from the known to the unknown. My major known fact was that my grandfather was born in the Parish of Wanborough, which is the neighboring parish. As I worked back to my great grandmother and beyond, my links with the village of Puttenham were firmly bought home.

By the time I was back four generations I reached the surname of BUDD and on looking through the vast amount of material I established that the Budd family was, in one way or another related to most of the inhabitants of the village. I decided to study the Census material for the village more fully and the day I saw my great grandmothers name listed on an official record was a very special one.

This was the great grandmother who I had sat with as a child and suddenly I realized that I was part of this village and I simply wanted to know all that I could about it. I visited the parish of Puttenham, I had heard stories from my grandfather's sisters about who lived where, who married who and so forth, and in the summer of 1986 decided to visit the village. It was beautiful summer's day, not a rain cloud in sight! and as I wandered through the village I tried imagining the atmosphere of the village at a time, several generations before my grandfather was born.

Someone greeted me from the Puttenham and Wanborough History Society and I was welcomed and introduced to the legend of the Curate Charles Kerry, who produced such a wealth of information, in manuscripts form; it is truly a Genealogical and local History treasure and the Puttenham One Place Study
was born.

The Puttenham (and Wanborough) One Place Study commenced in August 1986 and is a work in progress as well as an obsession.

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